There is the 'whole nine yards' in American Football, where it is ten yards rather than nine that is a significant measure for a first down. I can think of other 'nine' references in our popular usage where the nine seems an odd choice. I suppose that if the old atlas only had 9 levels, that may have influenced the usage.

The 1950s fits in with the Cloud Atlas of that period, but there are earlier references to cloud nine. In Buddhism, it supposedly is a reference to the state of being that is the penultimate goal of the Bhodisattva.Ī flaw in both these origins is that there are ten stages in the progress of the Bodhisattva, and there are actually ten levels of clouds.Īnother reference is to in Dante's Paradise section of the Divine Comedy where the 9th level of heaven is closest to the Divine Presence, which itself dwells at the 10th and highest heaven.Īnother pop culture reference I found is to a 1950s radio show called 'Johnny Dollar' in which every time the hero was knocked unconscious he was transported to Cloud Nine. (Not to be confused with Cloud Atlas: A Novel and the film version of the novel - both of which befuddled me.) The atlas defines the ninth cloud as the cumulonimbus, which rises to 10 km (6.2 miles), the highest a cloud can be. There is an actual (but old) International Cloud Atlas which defines types of cloud. Looking for the etymology, I found most frequently references to Buddhism and to the study of clouds.

I have to say that my own associations with the term are more with the 'psychedelic soul' song, 'Cloud Nine,' by The Temptations and the Cloud 9 album by George Harrison. I never gave thought about its origin before, but I was reading about, oddly enough, contemplative prayer The Cloud of Unknowing ) and a reference was made to cloud nine as something from Buddhism. You have probably heard of someone being 'on cloud nine' as meaning being in a state of blissful happiness.

Cloud nine meaning and origin